Monday, July 14, 2008

The Kids Aren't All Right

Youth Nationals is a very different event to Opens and Womens, and it's a very difficult to satisfy the interests of all involved.*

Junior Worlds players are the driving forces behind most of the teams, so ensuring their attendance is pretty vital. But in a Worlds year (which come twice as often for the little tykes) fitting them in the actual tournament is testy: you are competing with training camps, as well as the usual school/uni timetables. Hosting Youth Nationals at a date that does not coincide with a training camp means excessive travelling/money/effort/time, whilst hosting the event at a date that does coincide with a Worlds training camp runs the risk of the event being a complete write-off.

There is also the question of what we want out of Youth Nationals: should it be focused on development, or high-level ultimate, or both? If it's the continuation of the Sydney-Victoria (or Sydney-Sydney) hegemonic ultimate then by all means, hold the event away from a training camp somewhere in Sydney or Melbourne. In terms of development, though, there are two major complications I can see that prevent Youth Nationals from reaching its full potential as an event on the ultimate calendar:
  1. Recruitment infrastructure: currently, the majority of players are there on a friendship circle, word-of-mouth basis. At this year's event, one team was there because of the ultimate program in place at their school. That is where I see the future of youth ultimate's recruitment - high school. Especially in regards to states that do not have historically strong youth development (here's looking at you, TAS/SA/WA/QLD/NT) and weaker (or geographically less fortunate) players who have not been snapped up by club teams in their respective states. At the NSW High School Gala Day, a 'Merit Team' is selected from the best players. This team serves no function, at present. Imagine if the merit team from the SA High School Gala Day were selected to compete as a team at Youth Nationals - the words 'representing the state' add a lot of legitimacy to a sport like frisbee, and you could bet parents would be more willing to shell out the cash if this were the case.
  2. Pricing. Last year, we got a hat, a disc, two days of high-level coaching and two days of ultimate for about $80. This year, we got two days of ultimate, a hat, a disc and a party for $75. Unfortunately, swinging the tournament fee either cheaper (for development, talking $20-50 just for fields for two days) or more expensive (for discs, hats or social events) runs the risk of alienating either entire teams of prospective new players (as was the case this year, with the cost for just the tournament being prohibitive enough to ensure at least one team didn't attend) or the hardcore travellers who want the extra tidbits to show for their journey.
So that's about all I can think to say on the matter right abouts now.

*This isn't a dig at how youth nationals was run this year or last. I had an absolute blast this year, Lisi did an incredible job and was amazingly patient and deserves to be thanked with a big big hug if you see her in Vancouver. Also, the party venue was amazing- it had showers, a movie theater, a sound system and more hot pizza than the hungry youth crowd could eat.

4 comments:

Simon Talbot said...

Good to hear from someone who played at the tournament. The general feeling I got from watching the Monday night games last week was that no one was really looking forward to Youth Nats - it was an afterthought with regards to the Worlds prep and Worlds itself.

I like your thinking about having a state-rep-team-based Youth Nats. Have your state championships as your development tourneys, then select rep teams to compete at an youth-elite Nationals.

It almost seemed to be like that anyway...
HOSY - Victoria
Discgraceful - SA
Big Macs Small Fries - QLD
Cooties - Victoria
...but you'd probably still need 2 NSW teams in each division.

Wally said...

In regards to it being driven by worlds kids, isn't youth ultimate growing quite quickly? If that's the case, as the ratio of worlds players lessens other players will begin to take a leading role.

The number of kids who have played high level ultimate is going to grow, the number of kids going to Worlds isn't (much, at least.)

Worlds players of course will still be participating, but the importance of their participation and specifically accommodating them should reduce.

a1214 said...

yeah, that should be the case wally but when 50% of the players are still worlds they compose a big part of the teams, an even bigger part when you consider their contribution to the team as players and leaders of the teams (all the captains were worlds players) its still a pretty big group you have to worry about.

Twatson said...

At the moment the key to getting ACT involved is pretty much:

Single sex = no teams

Mixed = one team

Until we get a variety of other things sorted out that are required for good junior growth, thats the way its going to stay....